Saturday, March 17, 2018

Two Levels of Insurgency

Outer and inner.

Any student of insurgency, of warfare against a stronger power, of guerrilla tactics, of dissent opposition, understands that the fundamental strategic objective of the insurgency is to maintain its existence.

Insurgent armies will often avoid full frontal assault against the entrenched power, will engage in hit-and-run tactics that weaken that enemy while preserving the existence of the insurgent force.  The mere continued existence of the insurgency, in the face of a more powerful enemy, is itself a victory, it undermines the power of the enemy and the confidence of the people in that power, and it allows the insurgency to exist to fight another day.  As long as the insurgency exists, it has the potential for overcoming the enemy, if by attrition if by no other mechanism.  The continued existence of the insurgency will attract followers, it will allow for growth and adaption, it may attract the support of other powers; this is why the enemy state prioritizes the complete elimination of the insurgency – “containment” is not good enough, it is an admission of defeat – and why the insurgency itself puts a premium on existence.  Thus, the brilliant strategy of George Washington in the American Revolution, the Fabian Strategy (despite the negatives that strategy can bring and Washington’s own frustration at his critics), that allowed the Colonial army to survive in the field long enough so that important foreign support, and eventual victory, was achieved.

In this context, the Outer Insurgency is that of racial nationalists/nationalists/Far Right against the System, against the globalists.  Priority number one has to be continued existence of the Far Right opposition; after all, if you do not exist, you will be unable to eventually come to power yourself.  At the current time, the power imbalance between the Far Right and the System requires the former to engage in a Fabian strategy and guerilla tactics against the latter, a form of memetic/political/metapolitical ju-jitsu to use the clumsy bulk power of the System against itself.  A wonderful example of this is the “It’s OK to be White” meme, which puts the System in a lose-lose situation. If the System ignores the meme, ignores the posters and leaflets, then it displays weakness and emboldens imitators and others to push the memetic envelope further; if the System acts against the meme, then it “heightens the contradictions” and makes people wonder: “why isn’t it OK to be White?”  The System is forced to choose between being weak and being openly anti-White in a ham-fisted manner; the System cannot simply say, “Yes, it is OK to be White,” since the System’s entire foundational ideology is anti-Whiteness.  That’s a form of ideological guerilla warfare, a memetic insurgency, which attacks the System at its ideological core without putting the existence of the still-weak insurgency at risk.  Priority one: existence.  Priority two: attack and undermine the opposition. Leading to priority three: systematically replace the opposition and achieve power.

The second form of insurgency – the Inner Insurgency?  That’s the insurgency within the “movement” itself; relatively weak dissidents, presented by EGI Notes for example, staking out a niche in opposition to the (in relative terms) clumsy ham-fisted “movement,” which needs to be critiqued and undermined. Thus, it is the first priority for the Inner Insurgency to survive, to have a continued existence, to engage in a Fabian Strategy when necessary, to mimic on a smaller internal scale the same struggle that is taking place on a larger scale at the level of the Outer Insurgency of Der Movement vs. The System.

The “movement” has made this Inner Insurgency necessary by not engaging in the necessary reforms and by not giving dissidents “a place at the table” to bring their legitimate grievances to be aired without being summarily dismissed or labeled “crazy.”

Indeed, this “craziness” derives from the same source as consistently being correct about things, recognizing problems at an early stage, and realizing trends before they become apparent (if they ever do) to the “sane” among us.

I attempt to view things as they are, without sentimentality, or pity, or self-delusion, or moral posturing, or dogma, to get to the core of an issue, understand it, and project trends going forward.

This of course gets me into trouble both in Der Movement and in “real life,” as I come up against people (the vast majority of people fit into this category) who view things through one prism or another of the aforementioned characteristics that distorts their vision, often giving them whatever picture they want to see, or one that comfortably fits into moral conformity and social acceptability.  To them, I’m “crazy” or “bitter” or “impossible” or “autistic” or “cruel” or “cold” or whatever other ad hominem critiques of my character (some of which may have a kernel of truth) that enables the people in question to disregard my message and feel good about their own delusions.  Also, by disparaging my character, these people don’t have to engage with the unpleasant reality that I’m right in my prognostications 99+% of the time.  Rather than dealing with the hard realities inherent in a truthful message, the weak-minded turn their fear and frustration against the messenger.

I am of course not infallible and do make error; this is usually when I am relatively uninterested in an issue or outcome and do not dissect too deeply into it.  For example, I was wrong about Trump’s chances of being elected in 2016; however, while that was important, it wasn’t an issue of deep existential concern for me.  My real interest was how the Trump campaign was affecting the political, social, cultural, and moral climate in America, its potential to promote racial balkanization and sociopolitical chaos, and the long-term effects of Trump on future populist/racialist “demagogues.”  Much of my predictions in this regard have come true, and we’ve seen the spectacle of System hacks like Frank Rich repeating certain points of my The Nazi Next Time essay two years after I wrote it.  So it goes….

The Inner Insurgency continues.

Crush the Infamy!

Friday, March 16, 2018

Send Dr. Choo on the Slow Boat to China

More Asian perfidy.

“Breathtaking, isn’t it? To be so wedded in your theory of white superiority, that you will bet your life on it, even in the face of clear evidence to the contrary?” Choo tweeted. 
First of all, you mendacious alien, “White nationalism” does not in any way require a belief in White “superiority.”  Second of all, what does your (punctuation/grammar-incorrect, by the way) tweet regarding “clear evidence to the contrary” actually mean?  That you believe your medical training makes you special and some sort of refutation to the (alleged by you) belief of others in their superiority?  Third, are you a believer in Yellow superiority (Amren alert: a potential staff writer for you there)?  Fourth, is it appropriate for you to be talking about your patients (even in this vague fashion) on a public forum?
“Sometimes I just look at them, my kin in 99.9% of our genetic code, and fail to believe they don’t see our shared humanity.”
Good try, Suzie Wong, but 99.9% is not 100%, and there are massive genetic and phenotypic differences between racial groups.  Indeed, Freedman demonstrated differences in behavior comparing White and Chinese newborns.  In any case, the difference in the distinctive genome affects genetic kinship and hence genetic interests, which are at the core of adaptive biological fitness.

Further, I ask the good doctor: when the Chinese took over Hong Kong, why did they get rid of all the British workers there?  I mean, weren’t they “kin” of “99.9% of their “genetic code?” Didn’t they have a “shared humanity?” Or do racial differences suddenly find more “purchase” when we are talking about Asian nations and Asian living space?

By the way, even with all of that, I believe the WNs acted stupidly here.  They need to learn how to better navigate the multiracial sewer they find themselves living in. If they are forced to live in the same polity as aliens like Choo, they may as well exploit her expertise for their own benefit.  So, yes, let her make you healthy, and then use your robust good health to engage in activism with the objective of sending her and her kind on a slow boat to China; repatriate them to where they belong.

WNs have to learn, in personal interactions with diverse peoples, to maintain polite and professional relations (as long as they treat you the same) even though you may hate them.  Certainly, you do not need to show them any personal warmth (and should not), but polite and professional relations in circumstances that are unavoidable allows you to do your business and get back to the goals that you need to focus on.  Keep your eyes on the prize, my friends.  Do not get distracted by petty displays of cheap bigotry.  Ultimately, your goals are political, not personal.

So, let Choo treat you, all the time imagining her weeping bitter tears as she is repatriated to her pestilential ethnic homeland.  And, by the way, whether Choo is Chinese or Korean doesn't matter, she can go home either way... after all, the slow boat to China can always make a stop at South Korea, if necessary.

Thursday, March 15, 2018

You Are All to Blame

Gross dysfunction in Der Movement enabled by all you Type I activists out there.

Read here, emphasis added:
Heimbach was charged with assaulting his wife and his wife’s stepfather, Matt Parrott, who is also co-founder of Heimbach’s Traditionalist Worker Party. The organization is described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a new white nationalist group masking itself in “traditionalism.”
About 1 a.m. Tuesday morning, Parrott, 36, called police from a Walmart in Paoli, Ind., according to a police report obtained by the SPLC. Parrott told police he had fled to the Walmart with his stepdaughter after a confrontation with Heimbach, who had allegedly been involved in an affair with Parrott’s wife. The stepdaughter told police that the affair had lasted three months but had recently ended.
But that night, according to the police report, Parrott caught Heimbach with his wife. He confronted Heimbach and told him to get off his property, but Heimbach wouldn’t leave. Parrott poked his chest, then Heimbach allegedly grabbed Parrott’s hand and twisted it down. Heimbach got behind Parrott and “choked him out” with his arm, according to the police report.
Parrott told police he briefly lost consciousness. When he woke up, he again told Heimbach to get off his property, and Heimbach again tried to choke him, according to the police report. Parrott again lost consciousness, and upon waking up heard his wife tell Heimbach to track down his stepdaughter’s phone because it had a recording of Heimbach and Parrott’s wife together, according to the police report. Parrott and the stepdaughter escaped to the Walmart.
After police met Parrott at the Walmart, they left to track down Heimbach, and found him in a verbal confrontation with his own wife. Heimbach’s wife told police that her husband grabbed her face and “threw me with the hand on my face onto the bed.”
An analysis of the situation is here.

It goes without saying that I’ve been critical of Parrott for a long time, and once I learned about Heimbach’s antics, sharply critiqued him here.

Question: was there any leftist journalist “embedded” at the Parrott-Heimbach homestead to record all of this drama?

Another question: when are all you nitwits out there going to DEMAND an end to the travesty known as Der Movement, Inc?

Tuesday, March 13, 2018

SLC News, 3/13/18

More “movement” stupidity.

This utter crap demonstrates once again why Jef Costello ranks among the worst, most juvenile, and relentlessly asinine, writers on the Right.  Typical of his ilk, he projects his own feelings (not “thoughts” but womanly “feelings”) on everyone else, ignoring known examples of those who disagree.
But I’ve never met anyone…
That’s an example of Costello’s mendacity.  What does he mean by “met?”  If he literally means actually meeting people in person, then that statement may well be correct, but meaningless – how many activists has Costello actually met, and how many of those has he met at Amren conferences or “extreme vetted” Counter-Currents meetings, at which virtually everyone (with the exception of Hermansson and Lewis) would be pro-Taylor?

If we take a broader view of “met” to include “meeting” online then the statement is obviously false.

For example, read this.

Please note: I am NOT saying I agree with those harsh assessments, but am merely pointing out that they exist.  Yes, Mr. Costello likely never met these people, including Linder, face-to-face, but how can he pretend he doesn’t know that these attitudes exist?  Those comments are not merely disagreements about strategy, they are obviously about character and personality as well.

By the way, several years ago when Greg Johnson write how “disgusting” it is that people in the “movement” support Derbyshire, I ask, who is included in that?  Can you think of a prominent pro-White activist who was among the first to embrace Derbyshire, and invite him to be a featured speaker at conferences?  Maybe Costello can answer that after he’s finished serving breakfast to Mudshark Annie (and perhaps Dinesh as well).
The articles, by Jared and others, are of the highest intellectual caliber, and are uniformly “fact based”:

Munro’s anecdotal “hit piece” on Romanians was real “intellectual” and “fact based” and all, just as was the pro-Jewish modifications to the Hornbeck article in MacDonald, as were the ramblings of “Hippocrates,” and the constant promotion of the outrageous pseudoscience of the doddering old charlatan Lynn.

And on another matter read this. Note: “cuck-island-upate” (may be corrected by VDARE later on).

Not sure what an “upate” is, but, as regards the actual story, well, as I said as a riposte to Roissy, some of my best friends are cuck naggers.

Monday, March 12, 2018

Course Correction

A realization of utter failure?

Hey, Richard, at least read this.  Even if you disagree with its premises and conclusions 100%, at least by formulating why you think it is wrong it will assist in your course correction and redirection.

More fundamentally: any strategy and every event needs to be very, very carefully planned, with every contingency covered.

With all your talk of having “fun” at events, don’t you guys get it yet?  It’s war; it is not supposed to be “fun.”  If you want to have access to the public space, which you are being denied by FORCE, you need to use EQUAL OR SUPERIOR FORCE to take back your “right” to access that space.  If the opposition is “willing to go more far” in their actions than you or any other group, they win and you lose.

And, yes, it’s true, Antifa is being protected and enabled by the Establishment.  Now, who is in charge of Federal law enforcement in America?  Donald J. Trump and Jeff Sessions.  Think about that.  Think carefully: during the Obama administration, would Far Right groups have been allowed to openly (illegally wearing masks by the way) engage in domestic terrorism?  Would Far Right groups have been allowed to openly organize on campuses, armed and dangerous?  Would Far Right groups have been allowed to intimidate non-Whites moving into White neighborhoods?

Yet, Trump and Sessions allow Antifa to run wild in the streets, they allow Far Left armed groups to form on campuses, and they allow the Far Left to intimidate and attack Whites who “gentrify” non-White neighborhoods.

Who is the real enemy here?

So, I will agree with the excuse that it’s not really Alt Right vs. Antifa, it is Alt Right vs. Antifa + Establishment, with Trump and Sessions being on the side of Antifa (their unwillingness to perform their law enforcement role is functionally equivalent to complicity with the Far Left).

This is a tough nut to crack – the institutional racism against Whites, structural racism against European-Americans, the fact that Antifa is indirectly and implicitly supported by the entire American Establishment, including “fascist bigots” (sic) like Trump and Sessions.

At the very least, the Alt Right should have enough decency and self-respect to call a spade a spade and “call out” the ultra-leftist, White-hating Trump and his buffoonish, inept Attorney General for conspiring with the Far Left to deprive White Americans of their constitutional right of public assembly.  That would not, of course, solve the problem, but it would at least name the problem, recognize the problem, and you cannot solve any problem that you are unable to even recognize.

The God Emperor is functionally equivalent to Head Bolshevik and Mr. Magoo Howdy Doody is also complicit, through his utter and complete inaction, with the Far Left’s domestic terrorism.

While Spencer attempts to figure out what to do next, why doesn’t he at least mentally toughen up and admit the facts of the case?

In a real sense, following this line of argument to its logical conclusion, Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions are the de facto leaders of Antifa. If not them, then who? If they wanted, Trump and Sessions could solve all of Spencer’s problems overnight, and only by strictly following the letter of the law, simply by doing their jobs and fulfilling their minimal obligations. That’s not even being “pro-Nazi” – it’s simply them stopping putting their thumbs on the scale in favor of Antifa.  But they refuse to do so.  It’s doesn’t really matter why – it matters what.  And the reality of what is, as stated: Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions are the de facto leaders of Antifa

Two brief final points.

First, readers of this blog will question why I bother to give advice to Spencer and the Alt Right, since I have expressed my opposition to the Alt Right “movement.”

My answer is simple.  On a personal level, I’m a disinterested actor here. I don’t care about “movement personalities” as people, one way or the other; I have nothing invested in personal feuds (of which we know of several currently extant in Der Movement).  My interest is solely focused on ideas and actions and how these people influence ideas and actualize those idea through action. I have no personal ambition to be any Grand Poohbah or Fearless Leader in Der Movement; in any case, those roles are strictly apportioned through Der Movement Affirmative Action Program, from which I am barred. Thus, if any “movement” personality actually shapes up and starts doing well, then I’ll support them and more power to them.  If they screw up, if they promote maladaptive, destructive ideas, then I’ll criticize them. I give advice to be helpful, in the forlorn hope that someday one of these heroes will actually listen.

And my approach – judging people based on their ideas and actions – is better than the way they do things – which is to judge ideas and actions based on what they think of the people who espouse them.  For example, after the Johnson-Spencer feud became “hot,” mysteriously Johnson became a rabid ethnonationalist with an anti-Russian flavor, while Spencer’s previously tolerant attitude toward homosexuality suddenly vanished.  All a coincidence, I guess.

Second, I would suggest that those on the Far Right have long memories.  If and when the wheel turns, and the power shifts more in our direction, we should be as intolerant to the Left as they are to us.  No – more so, since we have Truth and Justice on our side.  Everything they do now should be returned with interest, returned a thousand-fold.

Addendum: Does being “selective” (something is better than nothing) contribute at least to some extent to what was a minor success?

Of course, that’s an order of magnitude less selectivity than is needed.

Sunday, March 11, 2018

An Insight into the Jewish Character

An anecdote.

Some years ago, I was told about a conversation between two female students at an American college, an anecdote which neatly captures the essence of the Jewish character.  One student was of Jewish ancestry, the other of Greek ancestry, and the relevant part of the discussion went like this:

Jewess: “[blabbing endlessly about “the Holocaust” and “persecution” of Jews]”

Greekess: “Yes, I understand, you are right, but other peoples have suffered as well, not only the Jews."

Jewess: “Why are you such an anti-Semite; why do you hate Jews so much?”

That’s it, perfectly summarizing the pathological navel-gazing ethnic narcissism and self-absorption of Jews – what else can you expect from a group that labels itself “the chosen people” – in all its glory: a single-minded obsession with themselves and a complete lack of genuine empathy for, or even sincere interest in, any other group whatsoever.

One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail

And it’s not only Arabs.  When have Jews expressed any remorse about the millions of Slavs they murdered in the Soviet Union, for example?

Were those Slavs only “supernal refuse?”

Saturday, March 10, 2018

Stick a Fork in It

The dying Alt Right and Alt Wrong.

Tenold is a Norwegian Leftist journalist who has spent the last six years “embedded” with the National Socialist Movement, KKK groups, and the Traditionalist Workers Party. The result is basically a book about Matt Heimbach, whose grand strategy, at least in its first phase, is to create a coalition of skinhead, Klan, and National Socialist groups under the TWP banner. We’ll never know what phase two is.
Let us understand this completely in all its implications.  A “Leftist journalist” – by definition, an avowed enemy of White racial interests – spent six years (SIX YEARS!) “embedded” within a number of Far Right groups, and then, using this experience and the inside information thus accumulated, wrote an anti-White “hit piece” book about the “movement.”

Friends and readers, Der Movement, Inc. is worse – far, far, worse – than even I ever imagined or ever wrote about.  It’s worse than a mere clownshow – it’s Pennywise of  King’s novel It – it is the embodiment of sickness and evil and all of you Type I scumbags out there – yes, scumbags, if you are one of those people – are fully responsible for enabling this outrageous disaster.
In case there’s any confusion: 
Posted March 7, 2018 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
Wait a second – Heimbach actually ALLOWED this guy to hang around for years? He wasn’t undercover or so? 
Greg Johnson
Posted March 7, 2018 at 4:02 pm | Permalink
Yes, he allowed this guy to hang around knowing who he is.

And for six years.  SIX YEARS!  I mean, the Hermansson infiltration was a result of ineptness and Nordicist fetishism and the Lewis infiltration was a result of ineptness and movie fetishism, but those, as bad as they were, were inadvertent errors.  This – this! – was intentional, with malice aforethought.
Hailgate, the cringe-inducing fall of Eli Mosley, and now this terrible book — and I am sure many scandals to come — are all predictable results of crawling into bed with the press.

No, Greg, they are the “predictable results” of the inherent flaws in the Alt Right, Alt Wrong, and Big Tent approaches, with only a few of us (mostly I but to some extent Strom as well) questioned and critiqued.  I PREDICTED the problems and downfall of the Alt Right BEFORE these events happened.
So why do they keep doing it? Why are they such promiscuous attention whores?

Years ago, Matt Parrott told me the cynical strategy behind Heimbach’s active press engagement, and I suspect that similar calculations drive Spencer as well. According to Parrott, most people in this movement lack the “self-esteem” and judgment to choose their own leaders. Instead, they allow the press and groups like the SPLC to anoint their leaders for them. Therefore, if one wants to become a White Nationalist leader, one must court the press and the SPLC.
How does one court the press? By giving them what they want, of course. By fulfilling the stereotypes that advance the enemy’s narrative. Thus Heimbach cheerfully incarnates the fat redneck, while Spencer plays the evil WASP snob. Thus Heimbach and Spencer have a symbiotic relationship with the enemy media. The media love Heimbach and Spencer, because they help cast White Nationalism in a negative light, and Heimbach and Spencer love the media because they believe it will elevate them over their rivals in the movement.

Regardless of my disagreements with Johnson, I’ve never doubted his honesty regarding incidents like this, so I do not doubt that Parrott told Johnson something like what is reported here. Whether or not those comments accurately reflect Heimbach’s thinking on the matter I do not know. But let’s assume for the sake of argument that everything Parrott said is correct and that Johnson’s interpretation of it is also correct.

Yes, Johnson’s outrage is therefore justified. The “leaders” here are outrageous.  But who enabled them?  Der Movement’s Type I rank-and-file are primarily responsible, make no doubt about it, the sort of brainless losers who “lack the ‘self-esteem’ and judgment to choose their own leaders…they allow the press and groups like the SPLC to anoint their leaders for them.”  And Heimbach and company are not the only ones who have done this; I can think of past and present “WN 1.0” “leaders” with a symbiotic relationship with the SPLC just as today’s majestically heroic “WN 2.0 leaders” exhibit..

And although I’ll never reveal – much less on a public forum – confidential details of incidents I personally experienced or otherwise know about, just in the broadest and most vague terms, I can say that there is (at least) one incident of which I am aware that a well-known “movement leader” (past or present, it doesn’t matter) did something unpleasant (for which there were legal consequences, but only locally), something that would reflect badly on their character and “turn off” supporters, something that it is virtually 100% certain that the “watchdog groups” knew about, but they (the “watchdogs”) never – not once – publicized it or commented on it in any way.  That certainly raised my eyebrows – a dastardly hater being protected by the “watchdogs.”  Why?

A paranoid interpretation would have been that the “leader” is/was a mole, but I doubt that.  It’s much simpler than that. I believe it was because the “watchdogs” value/valued the individual in the “leadership” role that he has/had.  He is/was inept and useless, so much the better to impede racialist progress.  You wouldn’t want anyone more competent (if you could find one in Der Movement) in charge, would you?  Also, the individual is/was a good bogeyman to scare old rich Jews into making donations to the “watchdogs.”  A symbiotic relationship indeed.

By the way, Greg Johnson is also culpable, for supporting the Alt Right as long as he did, and by dismissing critics such as myself as “crazy and bitter.”

I guess foresight is crazed insanity and good judgment is bitterness, according to all of our fearless leaders.

More to the point: anyone and everyone who thinks that "business as usual" is acceptable for racial activism is complicit in this continuously unfolding disaster.  When will all of you stand up and cry enough?  Stand up like men and take the "movement" away from those who so obviously misuse and abuse it.

The MSU speech only took place under the most extreme difficulty and duress. Once again, outrageous legal challenges were thrown in our path and overcome. Once again, our people were harassed and targeted like criminals as they attempted to peacefully gather for harmless social gatherings. Private venues were threatened and shut down. Mobs of armed anarchists, openly chanting about “punching Nazis” as they burned American flags, were allowed to attack our people with impunity as the police stood by and watched.

This time, the establishment cleverly targeted our strongest legal advocates before they moved in for the kill. With our lawfare defenses down, the police were free to let the antifa horde attack our people in what has been called another “mini-Charlottesville.”
We were promised a secure parking area and that our ticket-holding event attendees would be protected into and out of the auditorium. Instead, our people were led by police directly into a communist trap. Our people were told by campus police they had to march through the horde of masked thugs to reach the venue.

Why did these people think that any of these promises would be honored?  Haven’t they learned their lesson from previous fiascos? Why are they so naive?

Richard Lynn does not represent “objective science.”  Lynn is a charlatan, a pseudoscientist, an HBDer who grovels to the Altar of Asia.

He should not be stripped of any title for political reasons; instead he should simply be mocked or ignored as the pathetic fraud that he is. If nothing else, his laughable method for “estimating” Irish IQ – averaging completely disparate data sets to achieve a finding that “just happens to” correlate with GDP - should forever disqualify him from being in any way associated with “objective science.”  Non-scientists may shrug at that and say “so what?” but authentic scientists would be shocked at Lynn’s clumsy incompetence (assuming it is merely incompetence).

One can only imagine the tearful hysterical praise that will spew forth from Der Movement when the doddering decrepit Lynn finally drops dead. It will outstrip that for Phil “French Army Surgeon” Rushton, and far outstrip the minimal whimpers for Chris “Yellow Fever” Brand. On a related note, one wonders which HBD retard was “Hippocrates” of Amren?  Rushton?  Brand?  Or someone unfortunately still living like Hart?  A more minor figure?  We also can’t put it past Lynn to praise his own work pseudononymously, or for one of his collaborators to do so.  Given that the HBDers are for the most open and public figure, the pseudonymous aspect of “Hippocrates” raises questions about potential conflicts of interest.  

The pathetic sniggering Eurotrash retardates of the Europa Weekly podcast, ultra-fetishists with sweaty obsessions, can take a look at this reasonable summary of genetic data.  And for their viewing pleasure is an example of an Afrowop hook nose – individual on the left.  No, wait….