Monday, October 14, 2019

Agreeing with Zman for Once

Some points (emphasis added).

I’m usually highly critical of Zman, but this piece is fairly good, particularly as some of his comments overlap with some things I’ve written about in the past.  A few comments:
That is a bit of an exaggeration, but the point is to give Antifa as little time as possible to organize a riot. It works pretty well, but not this year. They were onto the location just as the doors opened. 
What does that tell you?  That the group in question has been infiltrated.  That the Left knew all about your precautions and set-up, probably because all of the “extreme vetting” failed once again.  Operational security is a fatal flaw in Der Movement; and that applies to Europe as well as America. Remember Steadman?
As we see in the States, Antifa in Denmark enjoys broad police protection. 
And who votes into power the politicians that enable this?
This is an old topic I have been debating with Fróði for months…I’ve tried to explain this to them, but they don’t get it
OK, if they cannot understand a simple concept after months of debate (months!), then that doesn’t reflect well on their intelligence or common sense.
It also ties into another topic that is popular at dissident conferences and came up in this one during Q&A. In America, dissident politics tends to attract losers and weirdos, who have nothing to lose. They don’t care about being outed, because no one cares enough about them to bother. In order to attract high quality people, we have to deal with their fear of doxing. Allowing guys to stay anonymous is a part of doing business in American politics now. That’s not the case in Europe.
This is exactly the point I’ve been making for years now.  Defeating social pricing is a key for success for American activism.  We need POPA, among other things.
Another thing that is different in Europe from the US is the dissident movements spring from different roots. In Europe, the guys you see organizing came out of hard right party politics and the underground scene. Collett was in the British National Party, which is a fascist party, for the most part. Fróði got into politics through the far-right Scandinavian subculture and from reading people like William Pierce. Over time, their views moderated and changed in the face of multiculturalism and immigration.
That’s why they are more successful.
In America, most dissidents came through libertarianism…
That’s why American “activism” is pathetic joke – or one reason at least.
It is an interesting contrast, in that the Euros are trying to clean up their act, while the Americans are trying to dirty up their act. For example, Collett, who is a reformed drinker, is intolerant of alcohol and drugs in his organization. He is relentless in his demand for making the right presentation. He talks about health and fitness, personal grooming and how to properly approach people on politics. In America, dissidents are always on guard for cucking, to the point of distraction.
Yes, Zman, but that wasn’t always the case.  In WN 1.0, people like Pierce preached much of what Collett says. It is only with your vaunted WN 2.0, the Beavis-and-Butthead WN of the Alt Right, that we have the “dirtying up.”
All-in-all it was a good time. There are things Americans can learn from the Euros, particularly when it comes to organizing. It’s always good to socialize with people who understand the issues. A big part of the dissident project is community building and that can only happen with in-person events. No matter what comes next, the people to come out the other end in the best shape will be those who have the community strength to handle whatever comes. When the crisis comes, we have to be ready for it.
I agree about community building. The problem is that it is very difficult, if not impossible in America, due to the social pricing problems alluded to by Zman, the high degree of defectives in the “movement,” the incompetent organizing and consequent ease of infiltration, and the bad behavior tolerated at meetings (e.g., the Pilleater Chronicles).